john's church. charlie, norah, gayle? >> bill plante, thank you. with us now are dee dee myers of "vanity fair" magazine and press secretary and author douglas brinkley. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> these inaugurals are always historic. now we have three presidents in a row who have served two terms. that's unusual. it's only happened one other time. you were recently with the president. he's thinking a lot about hesitate second term isn't he? >> absolutely. how did he time manage the first term and can you time manage the second one better. memore more importantly he's looking at abraham lincoln's inaugural. afterward there was a big mob of people coming to meet lincoln. he did a meet andldd greet. and they didn't want to let him into the mansion. he said i saw you out there in the crowd. he said you're the one person i wanted to have a word with. what did you think? he said mr. lincoln, the speech was sacred. and that meant everything to lincoln and here frederick douglass is the person we need